"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
09/06/2018 at 19:50 • Filed to: Ford Problems, Mustang | 1 | 23 |
Some of our tennis store’s clients are enthusiasts or like cars. One such client owns this 2011 Mustang GT with 106k miles. His last car was a ‘96 Mystichrome Cobra and ordered this when it was totalled. You’ve seen me post about the corrosion issues on my ‘17 Mustang. Well here’s what happens if you let it go unchecked for 10 years.
The irony here is that the company he worked for previously was the supplier of the product Ford uses/used to clean and prep the aluminum hoods for paint. But no, this is a serious issue whether Ford admits to it o r not. To remind you of the numbers , Ford switched from steel to aluminum hoods on Mustangs in 2005. EVERY Mustang since 2005 has had an aluminum hood.
for Michigan
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 19:57 | 0 |
My mom’s MKZ has this problem.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 19:57 | 0 |
Q uality!
boxrocket
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 20:24 | 2 |
That looks like exposed aluminum and peeling paint, not corrosion per se. Had the hood been painted/replaced from factory?
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 20:28 | 0 |
This was one of the things that Land Rover typically got quite right with their aluminium panels. However, there were p roblems with galvanic corrosion (which the Mustang is not suffering from) that tended to crop up after a couple of decades in the wild...
ranwhenparked
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 20:31 | 3 |
My problem isn’t that this happens - all automakers make mistakes now and then - my problem is that this has been happening for 13 YEARS and Ford has done nothing to fix it, and appears to actively ignore it.
I mean, almost every major automaker on the planet figured out how to properly paint aluminum ages ago - including Jaguar, when they were under Ford ownership - so there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t be able to easily correct this.
Nom De Plume
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 20:36 | 0 |
Pretty low point in oppo history here. Bragging about the wear guide on the impact zone of your Mustang that is.
ranwhenparked
> for Michigan
09/06/2018 at 20:36 | 0 |
It seems most of Ford’s aluminum panels do it, there’s a lot of Expeditions and Explorers running around with peeling tailgates.
dogisbadob
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 20:51 | 1 |
How many people did you run over to damage the paint like that? :p
No really though, Krown is awesome.
Alfalfa
> boxrocket
09/06/2018 at 21:14 | 1 |
No, that is exactly what aluminum corrosion looks like.
Just GIS aluminum corrosion.
ranwhenparked
> dogisbadob
09/06/2018 at 21:17 | 1 |
Wouldn’t help here. It happened at the factory. Ford doesn’t properly clean and prep the aluminum panels before painting, so, over time, the small traces of iron left on the hood by the stamping die react with the aluminum*, which causes the paint to blister and flake off.
*I think there’s some debate as to exactly how it happens, but the problem is definitely iron contamination on the surface before painting, which occurs somewhere in the manufacturing process. The stamping die sounds plausible to me.
BaconSandwich is tasty.
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 21:24 | 0 |
Oof. I was going to guess that whatever the painted part was, it was either aluminum or galvanized. It seems like there’s a lot of issues with paint sticking to either of those kind of surfaces.
BaconSandwich is tasty.
> ranwhenparked
09/06/2018 at 21:25 | 0 |
It’s almost like they didn’t learn anything from that big class action lawsuit about grey paint in the late 80s/early 90s.
Wacko
> RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/06/2018 at 22:26 | 0 |
Quality Is Job nOne .
Or is it now
Quality Is Job Juan
LongbowMkII
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 22:33 | 0 |
Polish those hoods
citrus
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/06/2018 at 23:38 | 0 |
New edge mustangs actually have composite hoods, not steel
boxrocket
> Alfalfa
09/07/2018 at 06:25 | 0 |
I’m a bit familiar with aluminum corrosion; the photos don’t appear to show the flakiness or bubbling that I would expect from a severe case. I did a BIS (I don’t use G) for Mustang hood corrosion, and the first results showed the bubbling and flaking that I would
expect to see, similar to steel but naturally a bit different.
nerd_racing
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/07/2018 at 07:43 | 0 |
I see ford Copied the miata with their hood material.
Monkey B
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
09/07/2018 at 08:13 | 0 |
Expidition lift gates, hoods as well as F series I believe. It’s disgusting Ford won’t do anything for those customers. Friend of mine had an Expedition and was basically told sorry about your luck.
Monkey B
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
09/07/2018 at 08:18 | 0 |
wasn’t just gray....I can probably still paint an F150 in my sleep. I always found it fucked up when they would come out (Ford) and turn some down as if they were mandated to...as if anything anyone could do to their car could cause delamination.
Alfalfa
> boxrocket
09/07/2018 at 09:50 | 1 |
I’m more than a bit familiar with aluminum corrosion, and that’s aluminum corrosion. You shouldn’t expect to see bubbling and flaking similar to steel corrosion, because it's very different from steel corrosion.
boxrocket
> Alfalfa
09/07/2018 at 13:29 | 0 |
I’ve seen aluminum corrode to cracking and flaking and look like corroded steel (white-gray instead of rusty-orange, naturally
). This particular example just appears surprisingly smooth and reflective to be simple corrosion. •shrug•
Alfalfa
> boxrocket
09/07/2018 at 13:53 | 0 |
Crac king and flaking in aluminum oxide are extreme examples. Typically only seen in high exposure industries like aerospace. Most examples of aluminum corrosion is simply a coating of white or opaqueness, which forms a protective barrier to keep the material underneath safe.
PS9
> ranwhenparked
09/08/2018 at 17:31 | 0 |
That’s ford for you. The company that came up with the nylon timing gear.